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Feb. 3rd, 2008 12:31 pmOk sci-fi fans, what are your favorite science-fiction utopias? I'm thinking about teaching a class on utopias next year, and want to use some reasonably contemporary fiction (as well as Plato, More, Bellamy, Lost Horizon, SimCity, and other stuff).
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Date: 2008-02-03 06:59 pm (UTC)I do a dystopia assignment with my AP Language class. Here's the assignment sheet: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg384q3w_56f7fr2c&pli=1
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Date: 2008-02-03 07:41 pm (UTC)Here are the sites:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home
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Date: 2008-02-03 07:52 pm (UTC)I liked this one, in some ways it is a "realistic" utopia
for some interesting, but unrealistic utopian ideas:
The Probability Broach by L. Neil Smith (a libertarian utopia)
The Truth Machine by James L. Halperin (The invention of a "infallible lie detector" leads to utopia through the surrender of privacy)
I happened to discover these two books in the same month. An interesting contrast of extremes.
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Date: 2008-02-03 07:54 pm (UTC)Don't overlook Orwell, natch.
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Date: 2008-02-03 08:06 pm (UTC)Diane Duane's Doors books (The Door Into Fire, The Door Into Shadow, The Door Into Sunset). This is Utopia-under-attack, and the plot is about how the heros beat back said attacks. Warning: strong sexual themes, including homosexuality* and rape; nothing really graphic, but not glossed over either.
The Neandertal world in Robert J. Sawyer's Hominids trilogy. Again, not a perfect Utopia, and one of the problems with it is clearly delineated in the third book, but the notion of the Alibi Archives might be a good one for discussion. Warning: one major plot hook is the rape of the female protagonist, and the (IMO very realistic) descriptions of her PTSD-type reactions to it; also, the Neandertal society is organized around universal bisexuality.
* Actually, homosexuality and heterosexuality per se don't really exist in Duane's universe; you love who you love, and no labels are attached to it. This is part of the reason I see it as a Utopia, but people who can't accept that worldview are going to have a problem with it.
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Date: 2008-02-04 05:05 am (UTC)People teach whole classes on renaissance utopias--More, Bacon's New Atlantis, etc. All that new world fantasia stuff. The Tempest.
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Date: 2008-02-04 05:39 pm (UTC)The Dispossessed is possibly the best of the bunch already mentioned, and LeGuin doesn't hide the fact that her utopian society has difficulties.
Wicked's society is becoming more and more oppressive, and the WWoftheW starts out with good intentions that go horribly wrong.
Not mentioned yet: "With Folded Hands" and The Humanoids, both by Jack Williamson. "With Folded Hands" is sufficient for finding the utopian-but-oops flavor that Williamson presents. Read the book only if you liked the short story.
Ian Banks has a series of books that contain, among other things, artificial intelligences that run a society known as The Culture, which appears to be genuinely utopian. Not all societies are part of The Culture though, so there are conflicts. Fair warning, I find Banks reliably loses my interest midway through a book, and I have to force myself to get past that to finish the book.
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